Simonee
October 1st, 2008, 08:51 PM
Hi all!
How do good programmers get rich?
How do good programmers get rich?
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TheCPUWizard
October 1st, 2008, 10:38 PM
Hi all!
How do good programmers get rich?
The vast majority dont. The people who DO get rich are the good business men (or women). In rate cases there is a balance (which may lean heavily in one firection or the other) that makes it seem that a programmer can get rich.
This is based on over 30 years of observation.
How do good programmers get rich?
The vast majority dont. The people who DO get rich are the good business men (or women). In rate cases there is a balance (which may lean heavily in one firection or the other) that makes it seem that a programmer can get rich.
This is based on over 30 years of observation.
CBasicNet
October 1st, 2008, 11:30 PM
Good programmers can get rich if they do not open source their code, hopefully the unique Intellectual Property applications which they code in their free time, get a critical mass of users, so that some company may offer to buy their applications and the source code or they find some Venture Capitalists(VCs) to open a company. The bottomline is you must have some Intellectual Properties(IPs) which you can use as a leverage. You cannot get rich by working for others. That is my opinion only.
Edited: Changed 'IP' to 'Intellectual Property' under TheCPUWizard's suggestion.
Edited: Changed 'IP' to 'Intellectual Property' under TheCPUWizard's suggestion.
TT(n)
October 2nd, 2008, 01:24 PM
How do good programmers get rich?
That depends on what kind of wealth you are refering to.
Changing the world with philanthropic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philanthropy) projects, can be just as rewarding.
That depends on what kind of wealth you are refering to.
Changing the world with philanthropic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philanthropy) projects, can be just as rewarding.
dglienna
October 2nd, 2008, 09:09 PM
Hi all!
How do good programmers get rich?
By PROGRAMMING, of course!
How do good programmers get rich?
By PROGRAMMING, of course!
tossy
October 3rd, 2008, 02:43 AM
I agree with dglienna.
CBasicNet
October 3rd, 2008, 05:40 AM
That depends on what kind of wealth you are refering to.
Changing the world with philanthropic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philanthropy) projects, can be just as rewarding.
Well, to be philanthropic, we have to be rich first. :D TT(n) has a point, if your mind is not centered on getting rich, just being content with what you have, you can be happy, unless you are in extreme poverty now. Helping and volunteering to help out the less fortunate people (in the old folks home or children's home) can be very rewarding too, though not in monetary terms. You can choose to be either spiritually rich or money rich! Whatever it is, you must ensure you have saved enough money for your retirement!
Changing the world with philanthropic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philanthropy) projects, can be just as rewarding.
Well, to be philanthropic, we have to be rich first. :D TT(n) has a point, if your mind is not centered on getting rich, just being content with what you have, you can be happy, unless you are in extreme poverty now. Helping and volunteering to help out the less fortunate people (in the old folks home or children's home) can be very rewarding too, though not in monetary terms. You can choose to be either spiritually rich or money rich! Whatever it is, you must ensure you have saved enough money for your retirement!
CBasicNet
October 3rd, 2008, 05:46 AM
I saw a happiness survey results on rich people, actually many of the rich people are not happy. If you chase after money, you would never be genuinely happy, because when you have $500,000, you will be happy for a while before you think that you can actually have $600,000: When you have had $600,000, you would want to have $700,000, your happiness is always short-lived.
TheCPUWizard
October 3rd, 2008, 08:14 AM
Well, to be philanthropic, we have to be rich first.
I have to completely disagree here. All you MUST be is alive.
I saw a happiness survey results on rich people, actually many of the rich people are not happy. If you chase after money, you would never be genuinely happy, because when you have $500,000, you will be happy for a while before you think that you can actually have $600,000: When you have had $600,000, you would want to have $700,000, your happiness is always short-lived.
Here I agree 100%++
Main Entry: phi·lan·thro·py
Pronunciation: \-pē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural phi·lan·thro·pies
Etymology: Late Latin philanthropia, from Greek philanthrōpia, from philanthrōpos loving people, from phil- + anthrōpos human being
Date: circa 1623
1: goodwill to fellowmen ; especially : active effort to promote human welfare
2 a: a philanthropic act or gift b: an organization distributing or supported by philanthropic funds
I have to completely disagree here. All you MUST be is alive.
I saw a happiness survey results on rich people, actually many of the rich people are not happy. If you chase after money, you would never be genuinely happy, because when you have $500,000, you will be happy for a while before you think that you can actually have $600,000: When you have had $600,000, you would want to have $700,000, your happiness is always short-lived.
Here I agree 100%++
Main Entry: phi·lan·thro·py
Pronunciation: \-pē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural phi·lan·thro·pies
Etymology: Late Latin philanthropia, from Greek philanthrōpia, from philanthrōpos loving people, from phil- + anthrōpos human being
Date: circa 1623
1: goodwill to fellowmen ; especially : active effort to promote human welfare
2 a: a philanthropic act or gift b: an organization distributing or supported by philanthropic funds
Arjay
October 3rd, 2008, 03:22 PM
They say "money doesn't buy happiness" - well being poor doesn't either.
TheCPUWizard
October 3rd, 2008, 04:04 PM
Money does NOT buy happiness....but it does offer some very attractive lease options. :D :D :D :D
davide++
October 5th, 2008, 05:23 AM
Well.
In general there are many factors that help getting rich in a honest way; first, you must be a hard working man, then you must have sense of business, and finally you must be a bit lucky.
Of course it's important where you live; in some countries is easier getting rich than other.
It's true, money doesn't give happiness, but it's better crying into a Ferrari than crying in the middle of a street without having nothing...
In general there are many factors that help getting rich in a honest way; first, you must be a hard working man, then you must have sense of business, and finally you must be a bit lucky.
Of course it's important where you live; in some countries is easier getting rich than other.
It's true, money doesn't give happiness, but it's better crying into a Ferrari than crying in the middle of a street without having nothing...
TT(n)
October 5th, 2008, 11:36 AM
it's better crying into a Ferrari than crying in the middle of a street without having nothing
Sure, for the individual, so long as you can sleep at night knowing that world hunger, and disease is still widespread.
If only we could do what's best for ourselves, and what's best for the group(world).
http://i10.tinypic.com/47lbigj.jpg
Is this not a crime against humanity?
Sure, for the individual, so long as you can sleep at night knowing that world hunger, and disease is still widespread.
If only we could do what's best for ourselves, and what's best for the group(world).
http://i10.tinypic.com/47lbigj.jpg
Is this not a crime against humanity?
funnyusername
October 5th, 2008, 12:09 PM
The same way anyone gets rich....you need to have something that millions of people are willing to pay a few dollars for, or something that one person is willing to pay millions of dollars for!
CBasicNet
October 5th, 2008, 09:06 PM
There is a saying in the West that "Money is the root of all evils", this is wrong, it is rather that "The lack of money is the root of all evils". So we must not be too poor either. :D
TheCPUWizard
October 5th, 2008, 09:47 PM
There is a saying in the West that "Money is the root of all evils", this is wrong, it is rather that "The lack of money is the root of all evils". So we must not be too poor either. :D
it is NEITHER. The proper quotation is "The Love of Money is the root of all evil". Personally I would change "Love of" to "Lust for", but that is a different point.
The quotation is not meant to indicate in any way, shape, or form, that money in and of itself is evil. Rather it is the persons view of money, and the actions they perform in order to aquire more, regardless of the impact.
it is NEITHER. The proper quotation is "The Love of Money is the root of all evil". Personally I would change "Love of" to "Lust for", but that is a different point.
The quotation is not meant to indicate in any way, shape, or form, that money in and of itself is evil. Rather it is the persons view of money, and the actions they perform in order to aquire more, regardless of the impact.
davide++
October 6th, 2008, 03:58 AM
Hi TT(n).
Obviously mine was a joke, maybe a stupid joke...
Of course, what you showed is a crime against humanity, and none of us Western should sleep quietly.
But remeber that usually the places where these things happen are governed by few criminals, who have much more than a Ferrari. They keep their people on ignorance, so it's easier sending them ahead in war agaist other poor people. And you showed the results...
Obviously mine was a joke, maybe a stupid joke...
Of course, what you showed is a crime against humanity, and none of us Western should sleep quietly.
But remeber that usually the places where these things happen are governed by few criminals, who have much more than a Ferrari. They keep their people on ignorance, so it's easier sending them ahead in war agaist other poor people. And you showed the results...
TT(n)
October 6th, 2008, 08:30 AM
davide++,
You're good, I just wanted to say that you can have the ferrari, if you are also doing something much greater as well. Then you can sleep at night. :)
I know personally that poverty, can hinder one from doing greater things. :(
You're good, I just wanted to say that you can have the ferrari, if you are also doing something much greater as well. Then you can sleep at night. :)
I know personally that poverty, can hinder one from doing greater things. :(
Simonee
October 6th, 2008, 06:26 PM
This is great, now when I got your attention I wondered how people usually get rich when it comes to programming. I always hear that a person made a software and sold it for millions...
Do someone know how they do it? Do I only need to find a solution that people/corporates need than program it and then sell it? I think its more dificult than that...
But maybe you guys have some stories to tell?
Do someone know how they do it? Do I only need to find a solution that people/corporates need than program it and then sell it? I think its more dificult than that...
But maybe you guys have some stories to tell?
tossy
October 7th, 2008, 12:56 AM
In my opinion person who works hard and uses tactics in business, he will reach his goals and surely he has a chance to become rich in the world.
CBasicNet
October 7th, 2008, 04:04 AM
Maybe Simonee is interested to read this book called "Think and Grow Rich! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_and_Grow_Rich)" by Napoleon Hill, published in 1937. This book is a classic bestseller. Many people has read it, including me.
Khiem
October 10th, 2008, 04:48 AM
The book is a little old to me, amazingly it has not been retired yet
Knowing how to not pay taxes is a best way to get rich, sincerity in business is a blindfold to success..Hmmm Yup!
Knowing how to not pay taxes is a best way to get rich, sincerity in business is a blindfold to success..Hmmm Yup!
Thu
October 10th, 2008, 05:01 AM
Maybe Simonee is interested to read this book called "Think and Grow Rich! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_and_Grow_Rich)" by Napoleon Hill, published in 1937. This book is a classic bestseller. Many people has read it, including me.
Are there so many books in Singapore huh ?
SINGAPORE SINGAPORE SINGAPORE SINGAPORE.... viva viva!
I know I can pronounce S.o.u.t.h. E.a.s.t A.s.i.a.
Wonder when can I say VIETNAM VIETNAM VIETNAM VISTA VISTA ?
Are there so many books in Singapore huh ?
SINGAPORE SINGAPORE SINGAPORE SINGAPORE.... viva viva!
I know I can pronounce S.o.u.t.h. E.a.s.t A.s.i.a.
Wonder when can I say VIETNAM VIETNAM VIETNAM VISTA VISTA ?
sweet_babylhyn
October 17th, 2008, 05:51 AM
I disagree with tossy, To become rich, you must me be a SMART worker not Hard worker. You can finish the project in a lesser time if you are smart worker.
Many hard worker did not achieve their goals.
Many hard worker did not achieve their goals.
sweet_babylhyn
October 17th, 2008, 06:00 AM
I think I will start now doing a program that will prevent poverty. When you click the button, the user become a billionaire in an instant. I think this is a good idea. I hope all MASTER's in CG will help me. I will post the code tomorrow and try to edit. HEHEHE!
davide++
October 17th, 2008, 10:50 AM
I disagree with tossy, To become rich, you must me be a SMART worker not Hard worker. You can finish the project in a lesser time if you are smart worker.
Many hard worker did not achieve their goals.
I don't think so.
When you develope software the goal is achieving the customer's satisfaction, that basically is a good application delivered no later than a due date.
If you're a SMART developer you'll get an application within the due date but with a lot of bugs, so a bad application (or a bad work), and probably the customer won't call you in future.
If you're a HARD WORKER developer you'll write an application within the due date and with few bugs, so the customer will be happy and he/she will call you for another job.
Many hard worker did not achieve their goals.
I don't think so.
When you develope software the goal is achieving the customer's satisfaction, that basically is a good application delivered no later than a due date.
If you're a SMART developer you'll get an application within the due date but with a lot of bugs, so a bad application (or a bad work), and probably the customer won't call you in future.
If you're a HARD WORKER developer you'll write an application within the due date and with few bugs, so the customer will be happy and he/she will call you for another job.
Arjay
October 17th, 2008, 07:43 PM
I don't think so.
When you develope software the goal is achieving the customer's satisfaction, that basically is a good application delivered no later than a due date.
If you're a SMART developer you'll get an application within the due date but with a lot of bugs, so a bad application (or a bad work), and probably the customer won't call you in future.
If you're a HARD WORKER developer you'll write an application within the due date and with few bugs, so the customer will be happy and he/she will call you for another job.I think you got the smart and hard working thing backwards, but perhaps it's interpretation.
When you develope software the goal is achieving the customer's satisfaction, that basically is a good application delivered no later than a due date.
If you're a SMART developer you'll get an application within the due date but with a lot of bugs, so a bad application (or a bad work), and probably the customer won't call you in future.
If you're a HARD WORKER developer you'll write an application within the due date and with few bugs, so the customer will be happy and he/she will call you for another job.I think you got the smart and hard working thing backwards, but perhaps it's interpretation.
dee-u
November 8th, 2008, 05:55 AM
By PROGRAMMING, of course!
I have been programming but not yet getting rich... :mad: I need some help from the philantropist here... :D
I have been programming but not yet getting rich... :mad: I need some help from the philantropist here... :D
Angry VIP
November 8th, 2008, 07:40 AM
I don't know what job I can do without getting completely undressed and lie down freely on beach. I sell ice cream in Honolulu. Welcome all to the island! :D
TheCPUWizard
November 8th, 2008, 07:03 PM
I have a good friend Rich, been tring to get him programming for years...no luck....
aio
November 14th, 2008, 09:08 PM
When I was doing lots of programming before, I was earning well.
When I entered into contracts and seldom do programming (just hiring programmers) I earned better.
Probably the best way is not programming but collecting an army of programmers.
When I entered into contracts and seldom do programming (just hiring programmers) I earned better.
Probably the best way is not programming but collecting an army of programmers.
dee-u
November 14th, 2008, 09:43 PM
When I was doing lots of programming before, I was earning well.
When I entered into contracts and seldom do programming (just hiring programmers) I earned better.
Probably the best way is not programming but collecting an army of programmers.
Filipino? Are you actually a freelancer or do you already have your own company?
When I entered into contracts and seldom do programming (just hiring programmers) I earned better.
Probably the best way is not programming but collecting an army of programmers.
Filipino? Are you actually a freelancer or do you already have your own company?
exterminator
November 15th, 2008, 02:08 AM
You can get rich doing anything not just programming. I have heard of rich beggars! :)
exterminator
November 15th, 2008, 02:09 AM
And regarding hard worker/smart worker. I have seen people who are not even worker rise up the ladder licking their boss' ***/****. They are neither. I can't do that. Ever.
aio
November 17th, 2008, 12:25 PM
Filipino? Are you actually a freelancer or do you already have your own company?
Yes, and freelancer -- but not on programming. More of data gathering for marketing firms. I just do some programming when I need to create/improve my own tools - not selling them to my clients.
Yes, and freelancer -- but not on programming. More of data gathering for marketing firms. I just do some programming when I need to create/improve my own tools - not selling them to my clients.
YourSurrogateGod
November 17th, 2008, 09:24 PM
Make something and sell it. Games work. Look up Blizzard WoW.
Bobbysl
December 1st, 2008, 12:05 PM
Well i dont know if getting rich is a part of programing. Most of the good programmers i know like to leave their programs open source. Their income is from their regular work and they dont get paid nearly as much as their manager. Who by the way sit on their assess all day long and give orders and have no idea about programming.
But i guess thats how it is in every profession, the people who do the work dont get paid as much
But i guess thats how it is in every profession, the people who do the work dont get paid as much
dglienna
December 1st, 2008, 03:16 PM
Clients that pay (on time) are nice. :( :blush: :o
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