C++ Certification

[RahulKateSys]

Hi to all gurus,

I don't where to post this query.

I came to know abt C++,VC++ certification examinations.
Which is the best and useful for job and self improvement.

I heard abt brainbench.
Is Brainbench really usefull or shall I llok for others?.

--- Rahul

[Ejaz]

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[NMTop40]

I did a brainbench and it was worth nothing. One person advised me to take the mention of it off my CV.

[darwen]

Having a Computer Science degree is all I've ever needed. Anyway, qualifications (nomatter how dubious like BrainBench) only get you into interviews : they do not get you jobs.

Once in an interview you have to demonstrate what you know and whether you know how to apply it, which no qualification can prepare you for.

The best thing I've found is to spend long, hard hours at home doing mini-projects teaching yourself how to write applications.

That ability to learn for yourself (and motivate yourself) is an essential part of being a developer : and demonstration of this capability will take you a long way towards getting a job.

Darwen.

[NMTop40]

What gets you interviews is a list of things you have done and how long you have spent doing them. i.e. whether you have played with all the right toys. Ability counts for nothing.
Also makes a difference whether your background is contracting or permanent. Mine is contracting and generally I can only get new contracts.

Interviewers almost always ask the same sort of questions. Code design never comes up. If they do ask about design it's almost always simply about UML experience or naming design patterns perhaps with a brief explanation.

Doesn't surprise me there are so many bad programmers around.

[RoboTact]

Interviewers almost always ask the same sort of questions. Code design never comes up. If they do ask about design it's almost always simply about UML experience or naming design patterns perhaps with a brief explanation.

Doesn't surprise me there are so many bad programmers around.Maybe they just can't find enough experienced persons and stuck with teaching?

[darwen]

Maybe they just can't find enough experienced persons and stuck with teaching?


I'm not sure what you meant by that. However I will agree with NMTop40 that all the interviews I've ever been in have concentrated around the "what I know" rather than the "how I design" and I feel that's a shame.

I do feel that design of code is more important than knowing "how to do this" or "how do you do that".

But also is the ability to learn. A lot of people aren't taught design from the start off - I only encountered a company which took design seriously after my second professional job after doing my PhD.

To summarise : I think most job interviews (and certainly for the first job you're employed in) are looking for potential and not necessarily expert knowledge about any particular field.

From my previous post :


That ability to learn for yourself (and motivate yourself) is an essential part of being a developer


I'd like to extend my previous statement to include realising that no matter how much you think you know, you can always learn from others.

You should also demonstrate that in an interview too.

As an example I changed companies about 6 months ago, and I've learned things from my new company even after being in the industry for 15 years and knowing C# for 2 years.

Darwen.

[RoboTact]

To summarise : I think most job interviews (and certainly for the first job you're employed in) are looking for potential and not necessarily expert knowledge about any particular field.That's what I said: they can't find professionals, so they hire potential ones.

And sure, every place needs guru for others to surpass.