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MrDoomMaster
March 18th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I have searched google for VS 2003 vs VS 2005 changes, but I've not found anything yet really... considering that VS 2005 is barely Beta right now.

I have used the Beta 1 of Visual Studio 2005 personally, and it sucks horribly. The install failed on several random occassions. When I finally got it installed, it was super slow. Of course, all of this is normal. It IS beta, after all!

I had a chance to temporarily test out the Intellisense for VS 2005. It doesn't seem to work any better than 2003. For example, member listing works poorly for accesses like this:

(*Iter)->NumObjects;

If 'Iter' here was a std::link::iterator, then it would display the members of std::link after the '->' instead of listing the objects for the data structure stored INSIDE of the list.

Anyone know any PROJECTED differences for the final version of 2005's intellisense?

Also, the dialog editor has been updated to support displaying windows xp themes. Yet, of the two modes you can use to align controls on a dialog (the ruler or dot grid), I use the grid. This grid aligns controls poorly in 2003, as when you resize the dialog in the editor, the 'dots' that make up the grid aren't spaced appropriately along the edges (has anyone else noticed this?). I had a chance to test this in 2005 beta1, and it still does the same thing.

I realize, once more, that 2005 is in beta stages... VERY EARLY beta stages. You can't expect much, but I WAS hoping for more differences in this first beta release.

Any comments welcome, I posted this thread to obtain information and also personal opinions. Thanks guys!

Andreas Masur
March 19th, 2005, 05:02 AM
Visual Studio 2005 Beta Home (http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/default.aspx)...

MrDoomMaster
March 19th, 2005, 02:02 PM
Visual Studio 2005 Beta Home (http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/default.aspx)...

I guess I forgot to tell you that I have already looked there, I found nothing specific to 2003 vs 2005 changes. I either have poor search skills or the site is hard to navigate.

Andreas Masur
March 20th, 2005, 04:06 AM
I would take a look at 'From the Visual Studio 2005 Teams' (http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/teams/default.aspx) as well as at 'Visual Studio 2005 Articles' (http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/articles/default.aspx)...granted you need to read some more... ;)

Other than that, the Microsoft Developer Tools Roadmap (http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.aspx) might be helpful...

bms123
March 27th, 2005, 01:17 PM
When to expect Visual Studio 2005?

Andreas Masur
March 28th, 2005, 06:14 AM
When to expect in Visual Studio 2005?
As it currently looks like the final release will be in late summer 2005 (the final release candidate is scheduled for mid-september)...

MrDoomMaster
March 28th, 2005, 09:24 AM
As it currently looks like the final release will be in late summer 2005 (the final release candidate is scheduled for mid-september)...

But we all know this is subject to change. More than likely it will be released later :)

Andreas Masur
March 28th, 2005, 11:26 AM
But we all know this is subject to change. More than likely it will be released later :)
Yes...that was true for the past....however, it might be change with this release...Microsoft is pushing hard to meet these dates...

bms123
March 28th, 2005, 01:53 PM
Ok, let us hope it does not become Visual Studio 2006 ;)

MrDoomMaster
April 3rd, 2005, 05:31 PM
Yes...that was true for the past....however, it might be change with this release...Microsoft is pushing hard to meet these dates...

I would rather them take their time, this allows more time for debugging. If they push TOO hard, I get the impression that they are releasing an incomplete product :) We all remember how Windows XP was when it first came out. I don't know how hard they pushed to release it on time, but it most certainly needed more time before being released. Lots of bugs!

bms123
April 4th, 2005, 01:12 PM
I would rather them take their time, this allows more time for debugging. If they push TOO hard, I get the impression that they are releasing an incomplete product :) We all remember how Windows XP was when it first came out. I don't know how hard they pushed to release it on time, but it most certainly needed more time before being released. Lots of bugs!Yeah, I agree 100 % with you, let them take time and release a less buggier one this time :)

MrDoomMaster
April 15th, 2005, 07:16 PM
I thought Beta 2 was supposed to be out end of March. What's going on?

Andreas Masur
April 16th, 2005, 04:09 AM
I thought Beta 2 was supposed to be out end of March. What's going on?
It was being delayed...should be out to the public before the end of the month as it looks like...

Kevin McFarlane
April 16th, 2005, 10:36 AM
I thought Beta 2 was supposed to be out end of March. What's going on?

It's just been released (in the past few hours) for MSDN Subscribers.