Linux IDE?

[mburke]

I will admit, I am spoiled by Borland and MS IDE's.

I am starting a project where I will be doing server side development in Linux. vi and make files are so 80's ;)

Are there any good IDE's for Linux?

[Andreas Masur]

Well...there exists the KDE development IDE (http://www.kdevelop.org/)...

[Manish Malik]

If you are using Gnome, also take a look at Ajunta IDE (an opensource project).

[Andreas Masur]

Originally posted by Manish Malik
If you are using Gnome, also take a look at Ajunta IDE (an opensource project).
Well...do you have a link to their website? It either seems that the project has died...or Google does not know anything about their website... :eek:

Thank you very much...

[Yves M]

I like KDevelop with its integrated help and pretty good window layout. I've never heard about Ajunta either. The only other "IDE" I've used is Glade for building GTK+ UIs, but it's not really a UI.

This said, for large projects Makefiles are still the way to go.

[mburke]

Ajunta comes bundles with SuSe. Its garbage. It generates errors when you create a new project. And from what I read, the latest version still has problems.

The build all option also fails. And get this, when I add a new file to it the compile options go away.

KDevelop seems to be OK. But its a ***** to install.

[Andreas Masur]

Originally posted by Andreas Masur
Well...do you have a link to their website? It either seems that the project has died...or Google does not know anything about their website... :eek:
Okay...I found it...it is called 'Anjuta' (http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/)... :cool:

[mburke]

Originally posted by Andreas Masur
Okay...I found it...it is called 'Anjuta' (http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/)... :cool:

Do you know of anything that really works and doesn't require a Phd to install?

[Andreas Masur]

Originally posted by mburke
Do you know of anything that really works and doesn't require a Phd to install?
Well...I was going to say 'Emacs' but I guess that is not what you asked for and it isn't an IDE as well...

I think, the best one out there is still KDE at the moment. Other than that, Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/) might become an option, however, I did not take a look at the C/C++ Development Tool plugin (http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/) yet...

[mburke]

I will take a look at that tool. Thanks.

I am really disappointed with SuSe. They advertise they have an IDE bundled with there OS (Ajunta). That is why I bought it. But the tool is crap. Oh well, its free. You get what you pay for.

The SuSe install directions for KDev are wrong, and if you try to do a manual install the config step chokes. Again, its free, so you get what you pay for.

I did find Borland (http://www.borland.com/kylix/index.html) has a Linux IDE. It's $250 for the pro edition. But I trust Borland. They have always put out solid products. I used JBuilder and I love it. It's so intuitive. So I might bit the bullet and buy it. They have a try before you buy, so that puts my mind to rest.

[Andreas Masur]

Originally posted by mburke
I am really disappointed with SuSe. They advertise they have an IDE bundled with there OS (Ajunta). That is why I bought it. But the tool is crap. Oh well, its free. You get what you pay for.

Well...that might be true. However, they are basically still at the early stages since the version number is only 1.1 or similar... :cool:

Originally posted by mburke
The SuSe install directions for KDev are wrong, and if you try to do a manual install the config step chokes.

That is basically one reason, I do not use SuSE...they have their own thinking about what has to go where... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by mburke
I did find Borland (http://www.borland.com/kylix/index.html) has a Linux IDE. It's $250 for the pro edition. But I trust Borland. They have always put out solid products. I used JBuilder and I love it. It's so intuitive. So I might bit the bullet and buy it. They have a try before you buy, so that puts my mind to rest.
Ahhh yes...it is called Kylix right?

[Yves M]

Originally posted by mburke
KDevelop seems to be OK. But its a ***** to install.
Really ? The only "problem" is when you want to index the helpfiles, as far I'm concerned. If you didn't install them, it can't index them and AFAIK none of the standard distributions instalsl all the docs.

Apart from that, I've never had problems installing it (I think I must have installed it more than 10 times on different computers with different versions of Linux).

That is basically one reason, I do not use SuSE...they have their own thinking about what has to go where...
Yes, it's a pity that Suse / Redhat / Debian are so different from each other. A lot of other distributions are based on Redhat, that's why people care probably more about that layout.

[dimm_coder]

I use KDevelop (v. 2.1.5) and it is ok mostly. Indeed I have some small problems from time to time. Last time I had a problem when I couldn't open a project. When the most part of files were displayed and the message, something like "Refreshing tree view", was displayed in statusbar, KDevelop simply was closed.
Other attempts to open a project were failed too. So I had to create a new project and to add the previsious project's files to it.
I had a funny problem with one of the previsious KDevelop version (it was a year ago). When U open a KDevelop window to max size, then U have a toolbar in refreshing/redrawing state all the time :D

Originally posted by Yves M
Yes, it's a pity that Suse / Redhat / Debian are so different from each other. A lot of other distributions are based on Redhat, that's why people care probably more about that layout.

I know that enough people use Debian because it is the most GNU Linux from all Linux'es. As I remember SuSE is a commercial project now :rolleyes:

[mburke]

Originally posted by Yves M
Really ? The only "problem" is when you want to index the helpfiles, as far I'm concerned. If you didn't install them, it can't index them and AFAIK none of the standard distributions instalsl all the docs.

Apart from that, I've never had problems installing it (I think I must have installed it more than 10 times on different computers with different versions of Linux).


Yes, it's a pity that Suse / Redhat / Debian are so different from each other. A lot of other distributions are based on Redhat, that's why people care probably more about that layout.

Well, when I read the installation instructions for KDevelop they do not match what I see on the screen. They want you to use the install utility in SuSe. What they describe is not there. And I can't seem to point the tool to the downloaded file.

[mburke]

I tried the Borland IDE (Kylix) and the generated code failed to link.

So far, I have tried three Linux IDE's and a debugger. They all failed.

This is unbelievable. I have never had this much trouble with Windows tools. So far Linux dev does not impress me. I am getting behind on my project because I can't find one IDE that works. :mad:

[Andreas Masur]

Originally posted by mburke
I tried the Borland IDE (Kylix) and the generated code failed to link.

So far, I have tried three Linux IDE's and a debugger. They all failed.

This is unbelievable. I have never had this much trouble with Windows tools. So far Linux dev does not impress me. I am getting behind on my project because I can't find one IDE that works. :mad:
Well...although I do not want to say that Linux is already as much user-friendly as Windoze, I would like to point out that you are using a distribution (named SuSE) which does many things different than the standard...thus, it might not only the problem with the IDE installations only...

I can understand your frustration though... :cool:

[mburke]

would you suggest I use a different flavor of Linux?

[Andreas Masur]

Originally posted by mburke
would you suggest I use a different flavor of Linux?
Well...basically no. Using a different distribution just because you have trouble installing something would be a little bit oversized. I simply wanted to point out that - although you are frustrated - the IDE's might not be the problem.

Did you check the SuSE FAQs or support whether they contain any information regarding the problems you have?

[mburke]

Like I said in the other thread, I needed to download a patch. Its working now. No, its not as advanced as VC++, but it beats vi & make.

[Andreas Masur]

Well..welcome to the world of linux...it is still not as smooth as Windows...however, you will get used to it... :cool: