I am interested what are the salaries of software professionals around the world. I am also interested in division of labour.
I am interested in estimated salary for each group of people for 2, 5 and 7 years of industry experience:
1. Coder
A person who writes code from UML graphs or by instruction from a chief programmer and is not able to work independently.
2. Developer
A person who writes code independently and is provided with less technical but still needs formal documentation.
3. Developer/analyst
A person who can do it's own formal documentation and analysis and needs no assistance to develop solutions.
4. Analyst and designer
A person who has a rich background in programming and does the analysis and design but does not write code (are there any such purists around?)
5. All others (*pure* project managers, testers,...)
...
Andreas Saurwein
February 17th, 1999, 10:49 AM
Good idea. What about making a survey on a webpage with some stats? Would be intresting to know.
Personally i am a 3/10/$2600 (group/years/cash)
Tomaz Stih
February 18th, 1999, 07:12 AM
Salary should be on per month basis and totals (brutto, gross) in
EUROS or in USD.
Tomaz Stih
February 18th, 1999, 07:32 AM
The survey is an excellent idea. I would do it but I am already envolved with
another pet project (a "RAD" tool). :-) Volunteers?
My data: Slovenia, 4000 DEM/month, 3 years, programmer/analyst, (VB, MS SQL, VC++)
Sean Blaes
March 16th, 1999, 12:28 PM
The web page idea is good. You could even take it as far as making a SQL backed web site which allows custom queries. For instance, you could get the average salary of a VC++ coder and specify only those coders with C, C++, VB, and SQL experience... Maybe it could even go so far as having an Activex control to graph out years of experience vs salary...
Once and Future Consultant
March 17th, 1999, 11:13 AM
Look here.
http://www.cehandbook.com/
And here.
http://www.realrates.com/
These pages have some other links.
The thing you are going to find is that there is a *huge* variation in rates even within
jobs that are described as being nearly identical. Contract vs regular employee
makes a big difference as well. (The theory is, the contract staff take more risk,
and make more of an effort to keep up to date, than do full time employee, and
the full time employee gets more benefits like pension, health plan, office, etc.)
Just as an example: the realrates site has C++ coders with 5 years experience
making from $25/hour to $125 per hour.
Your negotiation skills are going to play a big part in what you earn in this industry.
It is probably worthwhile for anybody in this industry to take a course or two in
interpersonal skills. Many community colleges have these courses for reasonable
prices, as evening classes.
Alex Indrei
April 20th, 1999, 09:34 AM
Salaries in Romania for computer programmers:
300-800 USD/month ( netto ) depending on experience.
Compare with an average salary for the Romanian
economy of less than 100 USD.
My situation 3/3.5/700( group/ years/ $month )
Alessandro
April 27th, 1999, 05:34 AM
Hi,
group 3 - 6 years - gross monthly income $3300
Out of taxes, it means net monthly income of $2000
Experience in embedded system, advanced control system and in partecipate in design and develop phases of complex projects.
I don't know for sure the average gross monthly salary in Italy. It should be something about $1500. When I worked as a freelancer I got more or less the same hour rate, at the end of the day.
Post a statistic summary, when you are done, please, but normalize against life cost.
Alessandro
Why do we hide from the police, Dad?
Because we use vi, Son. They use emacs.
about 10% get cars from the workplace.
about 25% are happy from their workplace.
avg. work time in one company is ~2 years.
Money in software is quite good ;) ( much better than that in other industries ???!!!)
India's avg. salary stands in ~40$ per month
A new car costs here about 5,000$-20000$ ( Suzuki swift being the most popular model)
A good house (2-3 rooms) in a decent place - over 25,000$ where as an apartment in a cheap place 10,000$
All figures are approximate
Cesario Simões
April 27th, 1999, 05:24 PM
In Brazil, the Dollar value increase last monthes. Then, our salaries, in Dollar, decreased...
One Dollar is cot. R$1.72
Approxim. values to Brazil South - Florianopolis(the salaries are different (bigger) in S. Paulo and Rio de Janeiro):
Trainee (20h/week) R$350.00 (U$200.00)
Programmer/Developer: R$1000$-R$2500 (U$600.00-U$1500.00)
Analysts : R$2000$-R$5000 (U$1200.00-U$3000.00)or more
avg. work time in one company is ~2 years.
A new car costs here about R$12000-R$20000$ (U$7000-U$12000) ( Ford "Ka" / Chevrolet "Corsa" / Fiat "Uno" / Volkswagen "Gol")
A good house (2-3 rooms) in a decent place - over R$50000(U$30000)
An apartment in a cheap place R$30000 (U$17000)
A GOOD house in a GOOD place and a GOOD apartment in a GOOD place: R$200000 (U$115000)
You can live very well here in Florianopolis, the 1st city-capital in life quality (UN) The food is very good, the environment also, beaches, mountains, weather (temp. 10 to 35 Celsius)...
Cesario Simões, Jr.
Paul Kalyakin
March 11th, 2000, 06:09 AM
Well, I hope you want learn about salaries in Russia |-)))
Here we have a specific division into salaries in
Moscow and in other towns.
I actually lives in Ryazan but also have some info
about Moscow.
So, in Ryazan coder/developer get <300$ per month
and it's also true for two other categories.
In Moscow people get
1 - 300-500
2 - from 300 to anything
3 - from 1000 to anything
4 - from 1500-2000 to anything
Hi!
Here a fresh graduate out of a reasonably good Engg. College can expect 8000-15,000 Rupees a month.(~190$ to 360 $)
And for a 2/4 years experienced s/w professional it is around 500$.
And it can go up to anything like 2000$ per month for Consultant / PM(ProjectManager) etc.
Yes...People at higher posts get good incentives on completion of a project and other occasions.
Me, currently:
- Developer/analyst, 3 years, $1100 netto ($1800 brutto) per month
(or 2200 DEM netto, 3500 DEM brutto, or 8800kn netto)
(with 6+ years total of productive programming)
My previous job (a weeek ago, in one bank :), working via
contract as a student:
- Coder/Developer (but having analyst experience also)
$400 netto ($650 brutto) per month
Life cost:
- 1-room apartment (flat) - $200 per month
(in Zagreb, capital of Croatia - $70-$150 in other cities)
- 2-room apartment - $300 per month
- food - $100-$200 per month
- looks like car (Yugo & similar :-) - $1000-$1500
- old car (Renault, Peugeot, Opel) - $3000-$6000
- new car (Ford Escort, Accent Hyundai, Pegueot, VW) - $10000+
Also, to consider:
- average salary in Croatia = $400 netto ($640 brutto)
(so, average IT salary is atleast x 2)
- the last salary range I've mentioned is usually in
companies that are working for foreign partner, or
in professional IT oriented companies
- in companies that are not IT oriented, but are having
just IT departments, Developer/Analysts are usually
paid as (only) Developers or even Coders..
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